Multifamily Podcast

Supportive Housing with Debbie Burkart and Cristian Ahumada

Steve Guggenmos and Corey Aber

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This episode features a topic that might seem counter-intuitive, even within our industry: permanent supportive housing. Steve and Corey sit down with Cristian Ahumada, executive director of Clifford Beers Housing, and Debbie Burkart, national vice president of supportive housing at the National Equity Fund. Together, they discuss permanent supportive housing—an intervention that combines affordable housing assistance with voluntary support services to address the needs of chronically homeless people — and the broader applications that can be gleaned from these innovations and put to use in other areas of housing.

  • Chapter 1: 0:00 - 18:00 – History of supportive housing
  • Chapter 2: 18:00 - 31:00 – New development deals
  • Chapter 3: 31:00 - 35:00 – Industry innovations and permanent debt
  • Chapter 4: 35:00 - end – Opportunities to create housing


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